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Poster: tigerbolt Date: Jun 18, 2007 7:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: April 1968

as of now those shows are not in circulation,maybe someday someone will get them out http://db.etree.org/bs_d.php?year=1968&artist_key=2

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Poster: GatorGuy Date: Jun 20, 2007 6:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: April 1968

Tigerbolt. Thanks for a definitive answer. Do you know if they even exist? My first encounter with the Dead was at Thee Image in Miami in April, 68 and I don't recall seeing recording gear. But the experience was so overwhelming my memory may not be that clear.

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Poster: tigerbolt Date: Jun 20, 2007 7:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: April 1968

you can always email david lemieux (Spelling} i hear he's pretty cool about providing that information to people and he knows what and what isn't in the vault.his email is listed in taper's section at dead.net.must have been cool to see the boys down in miami in 68 esp spring time in florida.

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Poster: GatorGuy Date: Jun 20, 2007 8:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: April 1968

Yes, it was an incredible experience that I have never forgotten. It changed my music tastes forever. It was like nothing we had ever heard and it will always represent the "real" Dead and SF sound to me. As best as I can recall the first set was mostly the first album and the second set was Anthem stuff. If you don't know, Thee Image was a small bowling alley with the lanes and equipment removed. There are very few photos of it floating around. It was just across the road from the ocean. The stage was only a couple feet high because of the low ceiling and it was a small crowd - maybe 150 max. So it was like being at a local band concert. We were only few feet from the stage. During the set break I think it was Hart who came back into the room we were hanging out in and he spent the break sitting on the floor talking to a girl. Too bad we didn't understand the significance of the night. During the break the Dead hung around just off to the side of the stage. We could have had a personal audience with them if we had wanted! We could also have partied with them on the beach according to Lesh's biography. Missed opportunities - or dodged bullets. The other two images that stick in my mind are Kreutzmann putting an incense stick on his high cymbol and never taking his eyes off it the entire second set. The other image is of Garcia standing on the edge of the stage doing his thing for what was the longest non-stop music we had ever heard. We missed the free concert in Grenolds Park - the local SF imitation. The Blues Image was the house band. A lot of great "underground" bands played The Image.

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Poster: cush212 Date: Jun 20, 2007 9:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: April 1968

Wow, I remember Billy and the incense thing! Hadn't realized it until you just mentioned it! My memories of the early years are all pretty vague, maybe I was too high, maybe I just didn't realize I should be paying more attention? Most likely the former... I grew up in SoCal and even in 67, 68 the shows were much larger and did not have the, the, the...intimacy you describe. Must have been fun! Did you go to any of the Seminole shows? They are available to at least stream here and some pretty awesome stuff!!! Check 'em out if you don't know them... I could dig up the links if you need, just ask...

PS. Blues Image was not a bad "house band" to have...

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Poster: GatorGuy Date: Jun 21, 2007 7:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: April 1968

Cush212 – No I didn’t make any of the Seminole shows. I had moved on by then but my cousin, who still lives in the area, attended at least one of them. (He hit every major show in the area) I have the poor copy from the Archive so if you know of a better source I would certainly appreciate the links. My cousin is a serious Dead Head and 40 yr bar band keyboardist in FL but he is not computer savvy so I am trying to build him a library. Take a look at his band’s site (tcbluemusic.com). This downloading and sharing is new to me. I had heard rumors of tapes floating around but until I read Lesh’s biography I didn’t realize how much there was so I started looking. Then I went crazy downloading straight for several weeks but apparently I missed by a few months the treasure trove of soundboard recordings that the Archive had to remove. But I have plenty to keep me occupied and live Dead recordings are all I listen to at home and in the office. There is no comparison. I figure I’ll eventually gather the rest.

I would give anything to have even a sample of the Dead at Thee Image. Since it was the first east coast stop promoting Anthem, I am guessing that maybe they did not have all of their equipment and entourage? I don’t recall much about the crowd and its reaction. It was a typical non-San Fran imitation hippie crowd. It had the standard overhead projector colored water light show behind the band with silent movies and whatever being shown on the side walls. Like I said before, this was my first real exposure to anything like this and it was a lot to absorb in a few hours. The So FL music scene was pretty active and progressive compared to a lot of the country (it wasn’t all beach music) and I had roadied for my cousin’s bands that covered Vanilla Fudge, The Doors etc, but we didn’t even suspect what we were about to encounter. We went to Thee Image only on the advice of someone else. We had never even heard of the Grateful Dead and tried to not make the name of the band too explicit when I told my parent where we were headed.

We missed the Dead at the Dec Miami Pop Festival because we only went to one of the three days. After all, it was a whopping $7 per day! Imagine, $21 to see nearly every major “underground” band in the country. But we did get to see the first major impact of Three Dog Night and Sweetwater. Few people seem to remember the first Miami Pop Festival in May 68 but it was more groundbreaking than the three day Dec event even though that was the event that inspired the promoters to try it again in a little rural place called Woodstock. At the one day May event (it was really hot) all of the bands did TWO sets - Hendrix, Canned Heat, Mothers of Invention, etc etc. That one was supposedly filmed by the promoter but the film has never surfaced. It was also recorded but I have not found any downloads although part of the Uncle Meat album is from that concert. If you are interested in more about Thee Image or the Miami Pop festivals and the So FL music scene in the 60’s try the Limestone Loung forum. http://p220.ezboard.com/Limestone-Lounge/blimestonelounge. I have located a photographer who shot the Dec festival and he has offered to let me search through his stacks of photos the next time I am in Miami. I am hoping to find some great stuff.

Since you were in So Cal in the late 60s, did you have any encouters with Johm Mayall? He is my other musical passion.



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Poster: cush212 Date: Jun 23, 2007 3:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: April 1968

Sorry for lack of responce GatorGuy, I've been offline for a few days... Will get back to you on this though. Did hear Mayall a lot and met him a few times over the years...